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Rek Seven
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Posted - 2013.01.16 12:54:00 -
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Talk is cheap.
I started playing eve in anticipation for WiS, and 2-3 years on it is nowhere to be seen, so forgive me if i don't have much faith in the design teams plans for the future.
As much as i love paying for CCP to polish their 10 year old game and fix things that could/should have been addressed years ago, i doubt that they will produce any new spaceship content that has as much potential to enrich the eve universe as avatar based gameplay... but i would love to be proven wrong.
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Posted - 2013.01.16 16:21:00 -
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Renan Ruivo wrote:Samuella II wrote:I would like to see people walking in stations. I know its complicated but promise is a promise.
How much money would it cost ? Maybe we just should create special investment fund for WIS. Lovers...
.......few years later...... CCP : "Just look at this awesome (34th) WIS trailer"
It doesn't matter how much money you throw at them, a development team (and a development company) can only work on so many projects. And we, as a community, have decided that WiS takes a back seat to pretty much everything that is already being worked on as we post.
Bullshit!!
The community didn't decided that they didn't want WiS. CCP ****** it up so bad and didn't deliver what was promised that they were forced to pay attention the core gameplay that they neglected for so long.
Don't get me wrong, i want them to fix all the issues people have been complaining about for year but make no mistake, I and plenty of others would like to see meaningful avatar gameplay.
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Posted - 2013.01.17 10:53:00 -
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Debra Tao wrote:Flamespar wrote:Debra Tao wrote:Rancor Kane wrote:Vaju Enki wrote:What about players that believe WiS was a monumental waste of resources, that almost killed EvE Online, and are completely against anything sims releated in EvE?
Can we also keep up the pressure? (the pressure created awesome expansions, crucible, inferno and retribution) A more accurate explanation of that protest was that people involved, had several reasons to protest, among those is a group that wants nothing to do with WiS, but it's exacurated at least to claim all those people where/are against every implantment of WiS. An other rising thread is the growing number of Scifi MMO's and sims, untill so far I haven't seen one that can deliver what EVE does, Though I've seen why you don't want to remove Highsec. And I think With Elite and Star Citizen, EVE has a chance on some serious compitition on the horison. Games and Developers that appeal to the older playerbase that is EVE, with possibly options that make people consider and choose one over the other. I'm all for reballancing and make sure that all that is offered actualy works, though CCP should seriously look at new gamplay options or it will stagnate, and it will loose players to the new kids on the block, which result in less money to invest in there game, and down goes the spiral. There aren't only players to gain by making useful content for Incarna/Wis but also players to loose when a fitting alternative presents it self. If you care to look at the actual numbers hte last extension has been a great success so what you are advocating isn't exactly backed up by numbers... Balancing is better than WiS But we don't have WiS. We have a room. So you want a second room ? A shower maybe ? A bar ? Stop kidding and fix POSes.
No he wants the vision sold to us. Not the the ******* dress up game we were given.
Those numbers you posted prove nothing. Check them in 3 months and see if the numbers of active users have fallen... spoiler alert; they will.
I find it funny how people are so quick to give CCP a pass. They have squandered your money and ignored your cries for change for years and now they give you a mining frigate and some ****** destroyers and your all like "we love you CCP" 
Given CCP failures over the past two years. Everyone should demand more from the product that is eve online and not be so easily sold on their empty promises.
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Posted - 2013.01.17 11:10:00 -
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Debra Tao wrote:I see... i suppose i should act as a reasonnable person and ask for a new dress and give up on the spaceship thing.
What are you talking about you cretin?
Avoid the main point that people are trying to make all you want, it doesn't hurt our argument it only makes you look weak.
Like i said, you should demand more from them whether that be "moar spaceships" or totally new content that has a greater potential to attract new players and enrich the current state of the game.
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Posted - 2013.01.17 11:26:00 -
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Lost True wrote:Vaju Enki wrote:
Can we also keep up the pressure? (the pressure created awesome expansions, crucible, inferno and retribution)
Yeah... I didn't even remember what was in those expansions... Ah yes, something with missille effects and the hangar... Ah, the destroyers too. Useless, but some models are nice...
Don't forget the tier 3 BC's... wait, they were designed by the players. 
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Posted - 2013.01.17 11:53:00 -
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Debra Tao wrote:You are amazing... I guess one of the biggest change in the meta game for small gank pvp with the revamp for logistic cruisers is "useless" ?
EVE is a pvp game at is core if you don't want to do pvp whether it be market pvp or usual pvp don't play the game ... Eve is unique in the sense that you take part in that pvp environment every single time you log in. That's exactly why POS revamp, Tech nerf, rebalancing are the core issues to tackle.
Walking with dress and drinking in a bar with NPCs is not what eve is about, there are plenty of other games out there with that kind of stuff and it's not the spirit of eve online, it's not what make people plying the game. Do you really believe that people will start playing the game because there is a bedroom for your character ? No the kind of player interested in that aspect of the game will play another MMO but will not play eve, the game isn't about that and the day it will be about that i will quit playing it.
Clearly, you have been keeping up with what has been going on. CCP created a new team know as "team avatar" who's job it was to create prototype meaningful avatar gameplay that involved as much PVP as any part of eve. That was canned for some reason... maybe so they could pour more money into Dust and WoD.
And FYI it looks like CCP are also going to can their plans to introduce modular POS's: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=194625
So yeah, more empty promises.
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Posted - 2013.01.17 12:02:00 -
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Debra Tao wrote:Rek Seven wrote:Debra Tao wrote:You are amazing... I guess one of the biggest change in the meta game for small gank pvp with the revamp for logistic cruisers is "useless" ?
EVE is a pvp game at is core if you don't want to do pvp whether it be market pvp or usual pvp don't play the game ... Eve is unique in the sense that you take part in that pvp environment every single time you log in. That's exactly why POS revamp, Tech nerf, rebalancing are the core issues to tackle.
Walking with dress and drinking in a bar with NPCs is not what eve is about, there are plenty of other games out there with that kind of stuff and it's not the spirit of eve online, it's not what make people plying the game. Do you really believe that people will start playing the game because there is a bedroom for your character ? No the kind of player interested in that aspect of the game will play another MMO but will not play eve, the game isn't about that and the day it will be about that i will quit playing it. Clearly, you have not been keeping up with what has been going on. CCP created a new team know as "team avatar" who's job it was to create prototype meaningful avatar gameplay that involved as much PVP as any part of eve. That was canned for some reason... maybe so they could pour more money down the drain developing Dust and WoD . And FYI it looks like CCP are also going to can their plans to introduce modular POS's: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=194625So yeah, more empty promises. I fail to see how what you posted prove that i haven't been keeping up with CCP work... Actually i don't really see how it is related to my post.
Do you have something wrong with you? You posted this about 5 minutes ago. 
Debra Tao wrote:
EVE is a pvp game at is core if you don't want to do pvp whether it be market pvp or usual pvp don't play the game ...
Walking with dress and drinking in a bar with NPCs is not what eve is about...
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Rek Seven
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Posted - 2013.01.17 12:15:00 -
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Yeah i don't see that either... Who said creating an avatar equates to pvp? 
Clearly we are getting nowhere so should we leave it there so we don't derail this thread any further?
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